Comments on: Why you probably should not learn Java

By: What programming language should I learn? | Diovo

What programming language should I learn? | Diovo — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:09:08 +0000

[...] shops as the primary language. It will take you a long way in most situations. At the same time, I have some objections with using the language from a startup programmer point of view. Read the discussions here [...]

By: comet

comet — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:52:14 +0000

the author is sort of convincing. Fearfully,In the years to come what prospects do they hold for java or .NET? wouldn’t there be bounty number of them fighting over few jobs waiting with their baffling experience leading to a saturation for java and .net market in near sometime? yet why are most people reluctant to choose to learn other languages that are as good comparatively? is it simply the blatant fact that nothing is comparable to java and .NET??!! if so what next?

By: tor

tor — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:29:11 +0000

idiots, .NET is the way to go

By: matka/html

matka/html — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:07:15 +0000

Language should be just a way to take your ideas into implementation. i don’t care if its java/php/C or for that matter python. Though you wanted to give this message, the way you mention java being a boring language is certainly pi**ing for those who have written great code/applications in it.

Besides when selecting language one needs to consider the tools and ease of development too. A particular thing(OS native level access for example) that can be done in C is not appropriate to be done in java. Certainly there are things that you can do rapidly in java and probably aren’t worth your effort in C/python.

I would also like to point that PHP can be whole lot more than what you think. I know of big web giants running the entire frontend logic in PHP. Now i won’t name who, because all that is supposed to be hidden from the user.

By: Manoj

Manoj — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:29:26 +0000

@silky

Gud. . Noone is asking u to leave ur java. . V r jst suggesting take a look at other options too. . They can be interesting enough. Rest is upto u. But once more no one is telling u to stop doing java. .

By: Niyaz PK

Niyaz PK — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:35:01 +0000

@silky,

“I decide only what is most interesting for me and what *I* consider best, not what someone tells me.”

That is exactly my point. Everyone is doing something doesn’t automatically make it what you should also do.

‘Java’ was just an example I used (and apparently a lot many people took it seriously. I should have anticipated this)

By: silky

silky — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:59:38 +0000

I can only disagree.

I loved learning java and generally pay little attention to what the ‘world’ is doing when I make my decisions. I decide only what is most interesting for me and what *I* consider best, not what someone tells me.

By: Manoj

Manoj — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:29:19 +0000

Well i personally feel that java programming is a headache. Try network programming in python. You will soon come to know the difference.
Well when i can do almost everything with python that can do in java with a clean, readable, no finger-numb-making. Then there is no use to get back to java at personal level.
But as many have said about business requirements so i am also to do java.
N for php. Php is just a web technology. Python is full-flegded programming language.

By: Reachnivi

Reachnivi — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:02:17 +0000

Niyaz…
I agree with you on most of the points discussed here. We’ve been battling with java from our college days isnt it.I can only describe it as frustrating technology.Felt like being lost in a jungle with all those frameworks.

Few quick questions

Ruby (on and off the rails) => Does it scale..?
Python (with or without django framework) => google Appengine …?.
Groovy => Show me a killer app. I’ll be convinsed.
LAMP => …

By: alien3d

alien3d — Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:15:51 +0000

Asp.net for erp application.Try to install sharepoint server in your laptop.And tell me how much footprint the ram Require.Please tell me you will instal SAP netweaver 7 application + server(Java Server).Tell me how much foot print required.Tell me if you install Apache Tomcat + jboss application.Tell me how much required to install Cold Fusion Server and also how much footprint ram requeire for their search engine.How much required.Tell me how much footprint if you install apache + php + mysql/postgress.Who win?

In the end is about optimization of sql statement and the application server.I know ,most of the company didn’t ever care about it.Build bloated field aka 100 field per table?Normalize please.

The true best application was console based but in the mean time the customer always request changes?How do you want to do in other language.Compile back .dll file?Restarted server Tomcat each time request.